Legislature(2003 - 2004)

02/10/2004 09:07 AM House STA

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                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
             HOUSE STATE AFFAIRS STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                           
                       February 10, 2004                                                                                        
                           9:07 a.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Bruce Weyhrauch, Chair                                                                                           
Representative Jim Holm, Vice Chair                                                                                             
Representative Bob Lynn                                                                                                         
Representative Paul Seaton                                                                                                      
Representative Max Gruenberg                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative John Coghill                                                                                                     
Representative Ethan Berkowitz                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
^OVERVIEW: DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
[For the regular  meeting minutes, see the 8:02  a.m. minutes for                                                               
this date.]                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
TAPES                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
04-15, SIDE(S) A                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  BRUCE WEYHRAUCH  called  the meeting  of  the House  State                                                             
Affairs Standing  Committee back to  order at 9:07 a.m.   Present                                                               
were   Representatives  Holm,   Lynn,   Seaton,  Gruenberg,   and                                                               
Weyhrauch.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SUMMARY OF INFORMATION                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR WEYHRAUCH  introduced Commissioner William Tandeske  of the                                                               
Alaska Department of  Public Safety.  Chair  Weyhrauch noted that                                                               
the House State Affairs Standing  Committee has jurisdiction over                                                               
the  Department  of  Public  Safety;   each  year  the  committee                                                               
requests  that  the  commissioner  update  the  members  and  the                                                               
general public of the department's activities.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER TANDESKE  introduced the following employees  of the                                                               
Department of Public Safety:   Ted Bachmann, Deputy Commissioner,                                                               
Office  of  the  Commissioner; Colonel  Julia  Grimes,  Director,                                                               
Division  of  Alaska  State  Troopers;  David  Schade,  Director,                                                               
Division of  Statewide Services; Dan Spencer,  Director, Division                                                               
of  Administrative Services;  Gary  Powell,  Director State  Fire                                                               
Marshall, Division of Fire Prevention;  and LeeAnn Lucas, Special                                                               
Assistant, Office of the Commissioner.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER TANDESKE  spoke about what the  Department of Public                                                               
Safety has  been doing since  the last overview before  the House                                                               
State Affairs  Standing Committee.   He  referred to  slides that                                                               
were made  available to  the committee  members [included  in the                                                               
committee  packet].     The  slides  help  to   define  what  the                                                               
Department of Public Safety is trying to accomplish.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER TANDESKE  stated that the department  does not limit                                                               
itself  to  statutory  rules, but  helps  other  law  enforcement                                                               
agencies  in  whatever way  it  can.   He  went  on  to say  that                                                               
cooperation  with local  agencies is  paramount.   The department                                                               
stands ready  to take  care of issues  for other  law enforcement                                                               
agencies when individual  agencies may not have  the resources to                                                               
handle certain activities themselves.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  TANDESKE assured  the committee  the department  is                                                               
interested in being successful in  the long term with the present                                                               
reorganization plan.  Fiscal functions  have been centralized.  A                                                               
Division  of  Statewide Services  exists.    These are  long-term                                                               
functions of the Department of  Public Safety and are being given                                                               
special attention by the department.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HOLM,  in response  to further  discussion, stated                                                               
he  has  a  problem  with  the  merger  of  the  law  enforcement                                                               
divisions  of  the Alaska  Department  of  Fish  & Game  and  the                                                               
Department of Public Safety.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  TANDESKE responded  that  all of  these people  are                                                               
fully  trained, commissioned  Alaska  State Troopers  - not  just                                                               
game wardens.   Under the new guidelines, a  Trooper stationed at                                                               
any  post can  work in  both capacities  - as  a law  enforcement                                                               
officer and  wildlife protection officer.   This change  has been                                                               
made to promote efficiency.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  WEYHRAUCH asked  whether an  Alaska Department  of Fish  &                                                             
Game  "protection  officer"  from  Hoonah could  be  pulled  from                                                               
his/her community if  there was a need for him/her  to do highway                                                               
patrol or  a murder  investigation in another  area of  the state                                                               
due to a high level of crime.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER TANDESKE replied  that the aim of  the Department of                                                               
Public  Safety in  that  regard  is to  get  other tangible  work                                                               
accomplished in the periods of time  when the activity is down in                                                               
some areas of the state.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  TANDESKE  spoke  to  the similarities  in  the  two                                                               
divisions.  He indicated that the  goal is to make optimum use of                                                               
all  individuals  in  the  Department  of  Public  Safety.    The                                                               
department has  to focus on specific  things it is not  funded to                                                               
do.   In response to  questions from the  committee, Commissioner                                                               
Tandeske  described  how  the  department  deals  with  areas  of                                                               
weakness  and how  it  will  best address  its  mission and  make                                                               
optimum use  of its resources.   He  told the committee  that his                                                               
staff was available to answer questions.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GRUENBERG  mentioned the problem of  people giving                                                             
false urinalysis samples.  He said  he believes that there are no                                                               
statutes prohibiting such a thing, and  he wants to know if it is                                                               
easier  to   enforce  general   statutes  rather   than  specific                                                               
statutes.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER TANDESKE  stated he would  like to think  about that                                                               
issue.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GRUENBERG  thanked the Fire Marshall  for his help                                                               
on the carbon monoxide legislation.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  TANDESKE   elaborated  more  thoroughly   on  other                                                               
aspects of the merger, including  combining and reducing staff to                                                               
eliminate costs and  increase efficiency.  More  resources at the                                                               
ground  level  were  needed,  and  therefore,  some  upper  level                                                               
positions   were  reclassified   to  troopers.     Wildlife   law                                                               
enforcement remains a core function  for the division, as well as                                                               
highway safety  and general  law enforcement.   The  division has                                                               
increased drug  and alcohol seizures  up 27 percent from  2002 to                                                               
2003.   A  drunk  driving enforcement  team  has been  developed.                                                               
Work has begun on rural  public safety and enhancements have been                                                               
made  to the  Village Public  Safety  Officer program.   He  also                                                               
stated  that troopers  have been  moved throughout  the state  in                                                               
order  to have  the resources  readily available  when and  where                                                               
they are needed in the major  hubs such as Fairbanks, Palmer, and                                                               
the Kenai area.  Anchorage was  excluded as it has it's own major                                                               
police department.   The Division  of Statewide Services  will be                                                               
doing all it can to support  all law enforcement and agencies, as                                                               
well as the public.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER   TANDESKE,  in   response   to   a  question   from                                                               
Representative   Gruenberg,  clarified   that  the   records  and                                                               
identification  departments, for  example,  listed  in the  Power                                                               
Point  presentation   are  not  manned  by   troopers,  which  he                                                               
indicated  means  less   expense.    He  also   spoke  about  the                                                               
reorganization of the Division of Fire Prevention.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR. POWELL, in response to  a question regarding the shorter life                                                               
expectancy  of  a  firemen  due to  smoke  inhalation  and  other                                                               
hazards  of   the  job,  responded   that  the  issue   was  more                                                               
complicated  than what  could be  answered  in a  few words,  but                                                               
basically there are many reasons  why people might think that the                                                               
statement  has  credence.   No  studies  have been  conducted  in                                                               
Alaska to  confirm or deny  such a statement.   In response  to a                                                               
question  from Representative  Holm  regarding an  ice hotel,  he                                                               
explained his  office is also in  charge of the safety  codes for                                                               
building  construction in  the State  of  Alaska.   An ice  hotel                                                               
needs to  be properly constructed  even though  it is not  a fire                                                               
hazard.   He stated that the  State of Alaska operates  under the                                                               
International Building Code (IBC).                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR. POWELL, in response  Representative Gruenberg, explained that                                                               
the reason  fire trucks often  respond to an emergency  call that                                                               
is not  fire-related is because  in many cases  emergency medical                                                               
technicians  (EMTs) and  fire personnel  are  cross trained,  and                                                               
that can be the most efficient way  to answer the call.  He added                                                               
that  such [dual  response] doesn't  happen in  all parts  of the                                                               
state.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  TANDESKE spoke  to  the fiscal  year  2005 (FY  05)                                                               
budget  request  for  20  new   trooper  positions.    These  new                                                               
positions   directly   address   core   missions   to   long-term                                                               
objectives.   Other  challenges for  the department  are homeland                                                               
security,  SERT  [Special  Emergency  Response  Teams],  and  the                                                               
problem of local funding being down.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR WEYHRAUCH spoke  to the relationship between  the state and                                                               
the villages that  have patrol officers.  He related  that he has                                                               
received  information  via  phone  calls or  office  visits  from                                                               
people who are concerned that  these tribal police officers think                                                               
they have police  authority, but that they are  not recognized by                                                               
the state as having any such authority.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SEATON expressed  interest in  the effect  of the                                                               
passage of the concealed handgun permit legislation.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  TANDESKE  responded to  Representative  Gruenberg's                                                             
comment on problems  finding troopers who are willing  to live in                                                               
rural areas of Alaska.  He conceded  it is a problem.  Some areas                                                               
have subsidized housing in the rural areas.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  WEYHRAUCH  expressed  interest  in finding  out  what  the                                                               
internal  process  and the  public's  involvement  might be  when                                                               
there is  a trooper  involved in  a shooting  - either  a regular                                                               
shooting or a fatality.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  TANDESKE,  in response  to  a  question from  Chair                                                               
Weyhrauch,  reviewed  the agencies  within  the  department.   He                                                               
indicated he would get back  to Representative Holm on a question                                                               
regarding  whether the  folks within  the  Division of  Statewide                                                               
Services are bonded.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SEATON  requested the commissioner look  into fire                                                               
requirements being  imposed that might  be putting people  out of                                                               
business  down  in the  Homer  area,  regarding sprinkler  system                                                               
regulations.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ANNOUNCEMENTS                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
There were no announcements.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
The committee took no action.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
There being no  further business before the  committee, the House                                                               
State Affairs  Standing Committee meeting was  adjourned at 10:02                                                               
a.m.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
NOTE:   The meeting was  recorded and handwritten log  notes were                                                               
taken.  A  copy of the tape(s)  and log notes may  be obtained by                                                               
contacting the  House Records  Office at  State Capitol,  Room 3,                                                               
Juneau,  Alaska  99801  (mailing address),  (907)  465-2214,  and                                                               
after  adjournment  of the  second  session  of the  Twenty-Third                                                               
Alaska  State Legislature  this  information may  be obtained  by                                                               
contacting the Legislative Reference Library at (907) 465-3808.                                                                 

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